[aaloa promoters] [Vote] Call for Vote on a project proposal: ZigBee 4 OSGI

Mon Dec 20 22:00:59 CET 2010

Thank you Francesco, again herein my vote for the proposal: ZigBee 4 OSGI
is +1

Regards

Sergio Guillén

El 19/12/10 16:39, "Francesco Furfari" <francesco.furfari at isti.cnr.it>
escribió:

>  Dear Sergio,
>
>This is a reminder because your vote was reported privately to the
>members of the GB.
>
>Indeed you have to write to the public mailing list of the promoters by
>replying to the message:
>[Vote] Call for Vote on a project proposal: ZigBee 4 OSGI
>
>
>regards,
>Francesco
>
>
>
>Il 16/12/2010 21.08, *GUILLEN BARRIONUEVO, SERGIO GUSTAVO ha scritto:
>> OK Francesco, very clear explanation and examples. We could start with
>>the proposed in the example.
>>
>> So I my vote for the proposal ZigBee 4 OSGI is
>> +1
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sergio
>>
>> De: Francesco 
>>Furfari<francesco.furfari at isti.cnr.it<mailto:francesco.furfari at isti.cnr.i
>>t>>
>> Fecha: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:05:39 +0100
>> Para: Sergio Guillen
>>Barrionuevo<sguillen at itaca.upv.es<mailto:sguillen at itaca.upv.es>>
>> CC: Mohammad-Reza
>>Tazari<saied.tazari at igd.fraunhofer.de<mailto:saied.tazari at igd.fraunhofer.
>>de>>, Joe Gorman<joe.gorman at sintef.no<mailto:joe.gorman at sintef.no>>,
>>ANTONIO KUNG<antonio.kung at trialog.com<mailto:antonio.kung at trialog.com>>,
>>'Sten Hanke'<sten.hanke at ait.ac.at<mailto:sten.hanke at ait.ac.at>>, Thomas
>>Karopka<karopka at it-science-center.de<mailto:karopka at it-science-center.de>
>>>, Francesco Potorti`<Potorti at isti.cnr.it<mailto:Potorti at isti.cnr.it>>,
>>>Laura Belenguer 
>>>Querol<laubeque at upvnet.upv.es<mailto:laubeque at upvnet.upv.es>>, Bruno
>>>Jean-Bart<bruno.jean-bart at trialog.com<mailto:bruno.jean-bart at trialog.com
>>>>>, Reiner 
>>>>>Wicher<reiner.wichert at igd.fraunhofer.de<mailto:reiner.wichert at igd.frau
>>>>>nhofer.de>>, 'Marius
>>>>>Mikalsen'<marius.mikalsen at sintef.no<mailto:marius.mikalsen at sintef.no>>
>> Asunto: Re: [aaloa promoters] [Vote] Call for Vote on a project
>>proposal: ZigBee 4 OSGI
>>
>> Dear Sergio, and All
>>
>> your question are not boring me.
>> In fact we don't have any formal procedure to express a vote.
>> I CCed all the Governing Board because it is a useful discussion.
>>
>>
>> So in this case I think that  just reporting the positive comment like
>>"the project will be very useful for the community", can be considered a
>>positive vote.
>>
>> I talked about the lazy consensus used by the Apache community in a
>>previous post.
>> I report here for your convenience:
>>
>>
>> Let me also add that sometime the lazy consensus used by Apache
>>community works very fine.
>> When a new member is invited to join to a software project, at least 3
>> favourable votes should be collect to accept the new member.
>> It helps the board by avoiding a boring counting of the people. Of
>> course if there is one negative vote it works as a veto. So people start
>> to discuss until a consensus is reached, that's veto is cancelled.
>> This rule cannot be used for example for modification of a by-laws, but
>> it works as facilitate asynchronous communication.
>> I would avoid  to use one more doodle poll every time we need to take a
>> decision that should be fast ... especially now that we are growing.
>>
>> In Apache there is a distinction among binding votes  and non binding
>> votes. In this case people of the board have binding votes, but
>> non-binding votes are important as well, they represent the community
>> involved in the project activities. They are however taken into account,
>> and opinion expressed by a of non-binding vote is always commented and
>> discussed.
>>
>>
>> So we need to decide  how  to count the votes  ... with a lazy
>>mechanism (at least 3) or with the narrow majority (50% +1) or large
>>majority 2/3 of the Governing Board.
>> I guess that it will not be a problem to reach the unanimity in this
>>case.
>> But if the vote is call during the the Christmas holidays then it could
>>be a problem wait for all members to cast .
>> So with the lazy mechanism it is important to fix at least a week to
>>give time people to rise a negative vote.
>>
>> I think that after this voting we can start to write some rules in a
>>wiki page or something like this.
>>
>> Francesco
>>
>> below some example:
>>
>>
>> Vote mechanism can be very fast in Apache, over the time  they started
>>to use very fast way to express their vote.
>> Effectively in a software community many issue are not really important.
>>
>> You can cast your vote with:
>>    +1  meaning ok I agree
>>    0    I don't care, I don't knoe  (but usually people don't reply)
>>    -1  I don't agree, I'm contrary.
>>
>> Here an example of call of vote for the release of a software in Apache
>>Felix:
>>
>>
>> I would like to call a vote on the following subproject releases:
>>
>> shell 1.4.2
>> bundlerepository 1.4.3
>> framework  2.0.3
>> framework.security 1.0.0
>> main 2.0.3
>>
>> Staging repository:
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachefelix-001/
>>
>> You can use this UNIX script to download the release and verify the
>>signatures:
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/check_staged_release.sh
>>
>> Usage:
>> sh check_staged_release.sh 001 /tmp/felix-staging
>>
>> Please vote to approve this release:
>>
>> [ ] +1 Approve the release
>> [ ] -1 Veto the release (please provide specific comments)
>>
>>
>> here a positive answer:
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Karl
>>Pauls<karlpauls at gmail.com><mailto:karlpauls at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I would like to call a vote on the following subproject releases:
>>>
>> and here the result:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here are the results:
>>
>>    +1 Felix Meschberger (*)
>>    +1 Rob Walker (*)
>>    +1 Carsten Ziegeler (*)
>>    +1 Clement Escoffier (*)
>>    +1 Pierre De Rop
>>
>> Thus this vote passes with 5 +1 votes (4 of which binding). No other
>> votes have been cast.
>>
>> I will proceed to publish the artifacts.
>>
>> Regards
>> Felix
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Francesco
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 16/12/2010 19.03, *GUILLEN BARRIONUEVO, SERGIO GUSTAVO ha scritto:
>>
>> Dear Francesco,
>>
>> Sorry for boring with this question, perhaps it is clear for the others,
>> but, is there any formal procedure for evaluating the proposals and
>> voting. In this occasion I gees that both are just formalities, but in
>>any
>> case I would like to know where and how I should send/express my vote.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> BR
>>
>> Sergio
>>
>> El 16/12/10 14:58, "Francesco
>>Furfari"<francesco.furfari at isti.cnr.it><mailto:francesco.furfari at isti.cnr
>>.it>
>> escribió:
>>
>>
>>
>>   Dear Governing Board of AALOA, and Promoters,
>>
>> I would like to submit to your attention the attached project proposal
>> concerning the ZigBee networks integration with the OSGi platform.
>>
>> I ask you to consider it for becoming an AALOA Project and to allocate
>> the needed resources for its software development.
>>
>> As promoter of this proposal and member of the Governing Board I will
>> abstain from voting on this issue.
>> I remember to the promoters that even if  they haven't a binding vote,
>> their comments are very welcome.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Francesco.
>>
>>
>>
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