[aaloa promoters] Nominating the temporary governing board

Antonio kung antonio.kung at trialog.com
Thu Sep 9 17:58:26 CEST 2010


  Francesco,


I will volunteer for Trialog with Bruno Jean-Bart as a deputy.

Long live AALOA

Antonio

On 07/09/2010 11:39, Francesco Furfari wrote:
>  sure volunteers.
>
> Let me also add that sometime the lazy consensus used by Apache 
> community works very fine.
> When a new member is invited to join to a software project, at least 3 
> favourable votes should be collect to accept the new member.
> It helps the board by avoiding a boring counting of the people. Of 
> course if there is one negative vote it works as a veto. So people 
> start to discuss until a consensus is reached, that's veto is cancelled.
> This rule cannot be used for example for modification of a by-laws, 
> but it works as facilitate asynchronous communication.
> I would avoid  to use one more doodle poll every time we need to take 
> a decision that should be fast ... especially now that we are growing.
>
> In Apache there is a distinction among binding votes  and non binding 
> votes. In this case people of the board have binding votes, but 
> non-binding votes are important as well, they represent the community 
> involved in the project activities. They are however taken into 
> account, and opinion expressed by a of non-binding vote is always 
> commented and discussed.
>
> With respect the shaping of AALOA, I think we will discuss all the 
> issues related to statute, by-laws organization in working groups here 
> with the promoters mailing list, and any final decision will be 
> communicated to the supporters list for getting their comments.  The 
> governing board for the moment has very few things to decide :-) so it 
> is only an official way to represent AALOA to the external world and 
> to allocate resources to people who want open a project within AALOA 
> community.
>
>
> Said that, I agree to have one person for organization and CNR in this 
> case does not request an exception (thanks Saied)
>
> So please volunteers wanted :-)
>
> francesco
>
>
>
>
> Il 07/09/2010 8.19, Joe Gorman ha scritto:
>> I had been just about to write a message saying that I think we 
>> should have just one representative from any one organisation 
>> (otherwise it can look unfair, especially for anything needing a 
>> vote).  I had also been going to say that each official 
>> representative should have a recognised "deputy", to attend meetings 
>> etc. when the main representative is unavailable.  But I don't need 
>> to say that now, as Saied already suggested it!
>>
>> The only other thing I would add is that the governing board should 
>> be made up only of "volunteers".  So: the fact that an organisation 
>> is listed as a promoter  should not mean that we automatically insist 
>> on that organisation being represented on the board.  They would be 
>> allowed, but not required.  So we should ask for people who actively 
>> volunteer for this role e.g. by responding to a request from you, 
>> Francesco.
>>
>> For SINTEF, I volunteer to be the representative, with Marius as my 
>> alternate.
>>
>> .   Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/09/2010 14:15 , "Mohammad-Reza 
>> Tazari"<saied.tazari at igd.fraunhofer.de>  wrote:
>>
>> Oh, sorry Francesco, my mistake (to have forgotten the initial email,
>> now attached)! This is why I simply referred to the web site...
>>
>> Looking at the member list in the attached email + Ricardo Serafin @ TSB
>> + Juan Carlos Naranjo Martinez&  Laura Belenguer Querol @ ITACA + Marco
>> Eichelberg @ OFFIS, there are 27 people from 13 orgs.
>>
>> I would suggest to have only one representative from each organization,
>> MAYBE just with exception for CNR-ISTI, in order to have a size that
>> reaches more easily a majority (assuming 2/3) when meeting and telcos
>> are organized. This way, the upper-limit for the size of the board will
>> be 14, depending on if all orgs do want to be present in the board. The
>> following numbers should help to have an imagination of what it means
>> for our meetings and telcos:
>>
>>     size        min. # of members necessary for meetings
>>     ----        ----------------------------------------
>>      10                          7
>>      11-12                       8
>>      13                          9
>>      14                          10
>>
>> But, I suggest that each official board member from each org can
>> nominate just a second person as possible proxy to increase the chance
>> that all orgs are presented when meetings and telcos are organized.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -- Saied
>>
>> Francesco Furfari wrote on 06-Sep-10 13:14:
>>> Dear Said,
>>>
>>> yes, but personally I would not limit the size of governing board, 
>>> being
>>> temporary, to 10 people.
>>> The four organizations cited in the website are willing to spend some
>>> resources for incubating AALOA, but we haven't to limit the
>>> participation to them.
>>>
>>> In general in this mailing list we have individuals that don't 
>>> represent
>>> formally organizations, I'm thinking to Francois Letellier or to Thomas
>>> Karopka to name a few. But I think their point of views can enrich the
>>> governing board to take the right decisions.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, I think that people belonging to the governing board will
>>> have binding vote, but I would get the opinion of all the AALOA
>>> subscribers.
>>>
>>> francesco
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 06/09/2010 11.35, Mohammad-Reza Tazari ha scritto:
>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>> from Fh-IGD, Reiner&  me would like to join the temporary governing
>>>> board.
>>>>
>>>> Just to make sure: taking the list under
>>>> http://www.aaloa.org/team/role_of_promoters (CNR-ISTI, Fh-IGD, ITACA,
>>>> and SINTEF) and the newest announcement that Marco Eichelberg from
>>>> OFFIS has also joined this list (welcome on board, Marco!), with the
>>>> suggestion by Francesco, there will be at most 10 people as members of
>>>> the temporary governing board. Is that right?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -- Saied
>>>>
>>>> Francesco Furfari wrote on 06-Sep-10 09:42:
>>>>> Hello to everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> an important issue we discussed in Lisbon was about the 
>>>>> appointment of a
>>>>> temporary governing board.
>>>>> I hope all of you are now returned and relaxed from their summer
>>>>> vacation to proceed with the board nomination.
>>>>> I would like to report in the slides presenting AALOA initiative 
>>>>> at AAL
>>>>> Forum the names of the people composing the temporary governing 
>>>>> board.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not got a specific procedure in mind. Maybe we could 
>>>>> consider to
>>>>> include not more than 2 people from the same organization.
>>>>> Then we should only propose our candidature.
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT? any other hint?
>>>>> francesco
>>>>>
>>>>>
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